Alright. So I said I was done with PTCs, right?
That's what I said however-many-years-ago
after I spent around $200 on bux.to and got
$10 back.
And I
was done with PTCs... for about a year or so.
Then I came back to check them out, and found
that NeoBux had started up about 6 months
earlier.
What can I say? I'm a PTC addict. I want an
easy way to make money. It doesn't necessarily
have to be
fast, but it does have to be reliable,
and preferably have a high potential. Within
reasonable limits, of course, in order to avoid
wasting an exuberant amount of time, and in
order to avoid getting scammed (Ok, really,
just to make it less likely. In the PTC world,
scam in the norm; you just move on).
For example, the payout has to take less than
something like 60 days - otherwise paypal
won't refund it. I heard that from somewhere.
Makes sense.
Early on I realized that
getting direct referrals
for PTCs was not the way to go. Why?
Because it results in a pyramid scheme.
How? Think of it:
You're trying to get direct referrals so you
can make money. Which means that you're
not making money as it stands. Why would
your direct referrals want to join unless they
could make money? And how would they
make money? Through getting direct referrals.
And how would
those referrals make money?
By getting direct referrals.
What a piece of shit. No wonder it's hard
to get direct referrals.
(I got a comment from
Cameron on one of
my older posts - the one about NeoBux's
autopay, where he said that he linked the
post to his
Top3-Pay-to-Click blog - which
he did. On that same page was the traditional
spreadsheet of direct referral earnings:
... and, my apologies. I mis-saw what
was there. Anyway, I can skim it off of
bux.to's website anyway:
"
Earnings Example
» You click 10 ads per day = $0.10
» 20 referrals click 10 ads per day = $2.00
» Your daily earnings = $2.10
» Your weekly earnings = $14.70
» Your monthly earnings = $63.00"
And how does bux.to accomplish this feat?
By using bots: (from PTC-I)
http://img16.imageshack.us/f/bots30547516jq3.jpg/
I'll revisit this in a moment.)
Hence
the allure of NeoBux: you rent refs.
Not buy them, as with bux.to. Not convince
family, friends, and make business cards for
random people you might meet (yes, I did do
that - I got bux.to business cards from Vista
Prints. Wow, right?). But just pay a certain
amount as per which way you decided to
pay (30 days, 60 days, 90 days, autopay...).
The question then becomes:
is renting refs profitable?
The answer?
I don't know. That's what I'm trying to
figure out. And the answer might be thus:
After two years, with consistent reinvestment to
get more refs until you hit the standard limit of 300,
it won't be profitable. Two years sounds like a long-shot
to me. But seeing as I've spent that much time trying
to find a decent PTC anyway, it just might be something
to consider.
I mean, it's not like I won't still be looking out of curiosity,
even after I've sworn that I've stopped doing PTCs for
here now and forever, so I might as well do NeoBux on
the side. If nothing else, I could spend two years investing
nothing into NeoBux, manage the referrals, and come back
with the report.
So it looks like the key to having a successful referral system
would be to rent referrals. If this can be profitable for those
doing the renting, then the system basically sells itself, and the
direct referrals that would occur from people sharing wouldn't
be people trying to make money off their friends, but money on
top of their intended means of making it.
And that's why I only consider either PTCs that have a ton
of ads to click (at a decent rate, which means at the very
least about $0.0003 per ad), or to have a rental system.
Otherwise it's simply not worth the hassle of weeding through
the 90-99% of PTCs that go bad. Other people can do that,
and then you can search for which PTCs rise to the top,
and maybe include those in your base. Or not. *shrugs*
One thing I really liked about paidtoclick.in was the automated
payments. All I had to do was click, daily, on the ads. It was -
for the most part - a steady stream of income. Yes, it was about
$0.02 per every 3 days, or something like that, but it was reliable.
It was certainly better than $0 per day for looking for more PTCs
that didn't work.
So another method that I employ is that of finding low amounts
in a short period of time. Here, again, is a system where you
could find some direct referrals who might be interested in joining.
And then that could be incremental.
Overall, what have I found so far?
NeoBux, Swagbucks, Gomezpeer, and YouData.
Only one of those is a traditional PTC. I say "traditional"
because technically YouData is a PTC, but its style is
much different from what a PTCer would expect.
So, the second part:
What's the problem with renting?
Accusations of NeoBux using bots usually become posts
that are deleted. Perhaps understandably, since the reaction
to this would be, probably, panic. Things like, "Has NeoBux
finally gone scam" might come up. Then again, perhaps the
admin actually IS using bots, and that's why the posts are deleted.
The problem with renting is that the average tends - or has tended -
to be very low. I guess it doesn't really make sense that the users
are bots, in that way, since, with sites like bux.to, you were pretty much
guaranteed to have a high click rate - but ah, until the ref reaches
around 300 clicks. Then it's a dead fish.
Which is why the craziness of some refs is troubling. It seems,
sometimes, that a referral would be active for a few weeks,
and then the average would just drop, or become non-existent.
This has been what has been behind the almost Tessa-like
declaration from people trying of "Well, you've either got it or you don't."
(Tessa has a scheme where you can take three steps and join a
bunch of stuff and he'll promise you $125. When you complete the
steps, if you don't read the fine print, you realize that you need $200
to cashout. And in order to get that you need to do some heavy
marketing... or... something. Hence, it's a friggin' pain in the ass,
and almost guaranteed to not work if you don't know what you're
doing. I didn't. Lost a few bucks on that...
Reminds me a little of GDI, and GDI reminds me a little of FHTM.
GDI stands for Global Domains International.
FHTM stands for Financial Hi-Tech Marketing.
Both have great referral schemes, but if you don't like the product
(and the products for each isn't so great), then the whole
program falls apart.)
So, I think that'll be my homework to myself (which I'll probably
do out of sheer PTC-addiction), to figure out this renting
referral thing, and how I can make it profitable for myself
and others. Numbers are one thing. Behavior is another animal
entirely. I got about $1.50 built up before I rented 3 refs;
a little lower than is recommended to start, but I sort of just
want to observe the 3 referrals more than anything else.
I was getting bored with just clicking 4 ads per day.
So. There you have it. I'm addicted. :-( :-P
Not to say that I'm not still looking into other
methods. This post is specifically about PTCs
and NeoBux.
