Sunday, March 13, 2011

Has NeoBux Committed Suicide?

Seriously. $0.04 is now $0.004?

Check it out:
http://www.neobux.com/forum/?frmid=3&tpcid=192785

Remember when Swagbucks had that *great* idea of giving people more Swagbucks when they searched (while glossing over the fact that everything in the store became 10x more expensive, thus in effect cheapening search credits)? Well, now NeoBux, in my eyes, has become one of the lower-par PTCs. What do I mean by that? I mean that the clicks are worth $0.001 each. And I mean the "Fixed advertisements".

I mention this because this could potentially mean that I cannot continue the experiment. I've already got an annoyingly large time-scale: 120 days. I can't imagine what a headache this might be if I try that somewhere along the line of 1200 days. What IS that? ... It's 3.33 years. ... 3 years. Yeah. I have my hands thrown up in perplextion. I'm going to wait a bit to see if the situation is truly as suicidal as it seems. It simply can't be the case; it doesn't make sense.


Later that day:
http://www.neobux.com/forum/?frmid=3&tpcid=193151
"Discussion on latest changes."

This part of it I find to be hilarious:
"I don't understand why users post something and do the opposite, really. Users claiming that they'll leave and they've been around all day clicking each new advertisement, for example."
Being a moron? Yeah, they're going to leave after they've been able to make cashout, after they've confirmed that the earnings are so low it's not worth it. Yeah, they're clicking away because they're in panic, you moron!

"Now that most of them have actually seen that they've misunderstood how things will work, I've opened this new topic for users to discuss things in an adult way."
And this is raising red flags for me. Christians say this sort of thing when atheists point out their bullshit. Is this indeed the last days of NeoBux?

"So please, cut the drama since you know that this, as always, will have a good outcome."
Oh yes, as Thou, our Lard, doth tell us. And we are Thy sheep. Fuck that shit.

"So, please, discuss all you want but be fair so that we all can have a nice conversation.
The latest closed topic is something that users that posted certain things won't be proud of in the next days. I'll leave it there as a reminder that we all must read first and think about all possible scenarios."
So, you scold people for not reacting well to getting $0.004 instead of $0.04, and just leave it at that? WTF.

"No one is running away... cashout are there for you if you're scared. Just use the pretty green button and take what's yours as no one will stop you as always."
Ah, so you're a "confidence man".

As you say yourself, you're relying on built-up trust:
"For those who know me by now it's easy to ask for this trust."

And you're not giving any answers. ... Why?

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Today at 15:15
Quote [Steeps5]:
I did understand the changes correctly. What it means is that we have to do 10 times the work to earn the same amount of money. The value for adds is now 1/10 of what they used to be, showing that it really will take 10 times the work we used to put in.
Yes, that's true and you're not having any misconception regarding it but only for fixed advertisements.
On the other hand, as we've lowered up to 35% the cost of our click packs, there will be a huge increase of advertisements per day. Not only that but we've managed to change what most advertisers left us for: The exclusivity of their advertisements has to be greater than ours.
Since I cannot unveil the new additions right now, I'll stop here.
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""I did understand the changes correctly. What it means is that we have to do 10 times the work to earn the same amount of money. The value for adds is now 1/10 of what they used to be, showing that it really will take 10 times the work we used to put in."
"Yes, that's true and you're not having any misconception regarding it but only for fixed advertisements.
On the other hand, as we've lowered up to 35% the cost of our click packs, there will be a huge increase of advertisements per day. Not only that but we've managed to change what most advertisers left us for: The exclusivity of their advertisements has to be greater than ours.
Since I cannot unveil the new additions right now, I'll stop here.""

You DO realize that this makes NeoBux very Aurora-like? You DO realize that this makes it lower-par, because people can't click at ads one-shot and be done with them? Those add-ons had better be fuckin' good.

"No one is running away... cashout are there for you if you're scared. Just use the pretty green button and take what's yours as no one will stop you as always."

Well...
"Even if we discuss this in an adult way, the site will keep giving us not even a cent per day, and by the way, you said we just need to click the green button to cashout, how is that possible if i need 20 cents (+ -) to cashout, which will be impossible to achieve with those micro-cents."

"Then you didn't understand it correctly. The rented referrals are still the same amount. So what you're saying is completely false."
So, if you didn't realize, rr (rented referrals) have infamously low click rates. I go on the assumption that they won't click. Kapeesh?

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Today at 15:19
Quote [send24]:
I will stay here until I reach my next payment because i am close, and after that I will leave!!! So that's the reason we are clicking, and because some members think that this is a joke!!!

THIS IS A RIP OFF AND NOTHING ELSE BUT A RIP OFF.

People have invested over 100$ into your site and now they have to click years and years to return it!
No. No one invested any amount based on the total of own advertisements.
Given that, and to never to those who have invested, their referral earnings will be the same.

The initial idea, since we needed to maintain the same amount of advertisements for rented referrals' commissions, was actually to only give those the fixed advertisements.
Since it would be totally unethical, it was decided to give them to everyone."

Um, what? No one invested based on their own ads? Well, that's just plain false. EVERYONE invested based on having 4 ads a day at $0.01. WTF admin?
And that second part still makes no sense to me. Decrypt it for us, if you would.

Someone attempts to demystify this:
http://www.neobux.com/forum/?/7/193134/Just-attempt-to-clarify-the-news/
"The changes:
You get every click 0,001 Cent. 
If you have directs, you get depending on membership.
- Standard members: $0.0005
- Golden members: $0.005
- Golden members with a Golden Pack: $0.01
Rental value is still the same."

Ok. And? It still looks like PTC suicide to me.

"Quote [Icklorfin]:
Yeah, I really don't like how he just had to made the profit for standards worse ;-;. Before you could get 4c for just 4 clicks, now you'd need at least 40 clicks for micro-ads and those fixed ads just to do the same.
thats it. He want to motivate people to invest in neobux to buy members and stay active because of the clicks they must do for getting payed for their members."

So, in other words, buy more referrals... OR ELSE. So, in other words, invest money, OR ELSE. So, in other words, this is becoming a shit sandwich. So, in other words, you're a fuckin' moron, admin.

So: How NeoBux is committing suicide:
http://www.neobux.com/forum/?/7/193134/Just-attempt-to-clarify-the-news/21/
"This is an incorrect understanding. If you rent rent-referrals, and they click 4 ads a day, then you will get $0.02.

THIS is not what the problem is. The problem is that these rent-referrals when they click, they will only earn $0.001 a click, and so if they do not have rent-referrals themselves, they will stop clicking.

Therefore this new payment method will be fine for a while, but when people catch on, the losses will transmit higher and higher up the pyramid.

THIS is the problem with this model!"


"Quote [mrevan]:
as i said alot of users who works for 2$ and cashout they dont have any reffs, but they are the someones refferalls, so if they gonna quit nobody is going to have profitable refferals
No one (or at least not a noticeable amount) of users will quit. If all goes according to my prediction, it will even bring more users.



Quote [helder1986]:
But Admin try to understand some people doesn't have the time to click hours and hours, so because of that ours AVG will drop exponencialy...

Its not a motivation...
It won't take hours.



Quote [comebackdan]:
Legitimate Question - Will Standard users be able to click more than 4 fixed ads per day? I currently am seeing the 15 fixed ads as normal. Will I have 17, 19, 25 in the future?
Depends on the advertiser and maybe a fixed bonus given by us.



Quote [valywanted]:
I think that neobux will lost more members because we have no motivation if we are Standard member.......and Its no faire!!
You'll have plenty motivation, don't worry."

Meh. Waiting in pissed anticipation.

"Quote [RsRoyalty]:
Maybe it would be helpful if you told us all the change. As I had not idea the rented refs give the same amount as before, from the fixed ads, and that would've helped a lot to have known.
It was explained but not emphasized. I sometimes forget that people target bad things faster than good ones with their eyes."

Nah, not really. It's just that if you're looking to commit PTC suicide, that's sort of worrysome. No biggie, though. We can just go to another PTC that isn't into goth. WHAT good ones? Eh? We can't enjoy the good ones if we don't KNOW about them. They're a SURPRISE, remember?

"Quote [willo012]:
admin posing this new thread seems a little immature? what are you some 15 year old kid? im not meaning to be offensive but the facts are many standard members WILL leave because of this silly error and this WILL result in many many member losing out. as a loyal member im asking you to reverse this or please explain properly how this can help anyone because i fail to see what you are trying to do. its a shame to say that you have officially sunk the neobux ship :/
No, but I have good memories of that period a long time ago, thank you.
That's your opinion which comes without facts. I have them."

*cough* "I sometimes forget that people target bad things faster than good ones with their eyes." "That's your opinion which comes without facts. I have them." *cough*
Care to share the facts, all-mighty Zeus?

http://www.neobux.com/forum/?/3/193151/Discussion-on-latest-changes/171/
"Quote [LinkAssist]:
Thanks for giving us a little feedback, Admin. Could you help us out, though? Many are running scared, waiting for the other shoe to fall (or afraid it already has). What new benefits will be upcoming for Standards on Neobux's non-birthday? Can you tell us something that will ease the panic and slow the bleeding?
Keeping my fingers crossed...
Sorry, but you should know by now that a surprise is a surprise."

Sorry, but you should know by now that a seemingly idiotic decision with a lack of visuals of the good stuff results in not good feelings.

"You've noticed it but that's still with the previous price. It takes 24 hours for clicks to be available to advertisers so tomorrow will be different."

*pissed* Good. You'd better hope fuckin' so.

"Although many complaint, the actual truth is that most have been more active today than any other day (and it's Sunday).
They post "it's bad" then realize it's actually good but never say "I was wrong"."
*facepalm*

"Thank you for your concerns, I do appreciate them. Do you really think that I would even a small change if it would hurt NeoBux in any way? I always struggle when making changes due to the fact that a few don't understand them at first. I could just sit back and think "Let them earn only that" instead of thinking "What can I do to make them earn more?". But what can I say? I just can't be passive."
A week's notice would be nice.

"Quote [Govahram]:
This remind me of the demonstrations in middle east and north Africa no offend, you have the Anti-admin and the Admin sympathizers hihi  just kidding 
Please don't make jokes about serious events like that. Thank you."
Oh really? ^_^ Fuck you too, NeoBux Hitman. Oh wait, I meant to say admin. What's the difference, though? :P

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

Guys just tell them to fuck of and go on with your lives there are lot of other sites on internet from which you can make money .