NeoBux Renting Rescue: The Fundamental Flaw

The problem with trying to direct referrals is that of basically being
a spambot and creating an unsustainable MLM matrix:
there's inevitably going to be a loser, if not many.

However, this problem is not eliminated with renting.
Instead, it's put off a bit down the line. Especially with
NeoBux, you're not pushing people to click. The clicking
is dependent on whether they want to get the clicks
from their referrals. All well and good.

Here's the problem: You can rent more than one person.
And that person can only be rented to you.
That means that that person can't be rented to anyone else.
And that means that if someone has all of the rents,
then no-one else can rent.

Let's just say everyone in the world who was on NeoBux
was rented to 10 people. What does this mean for the other
non-10 people? That means that there's no incentive to click -
whose clicks are you trying to get?

Thus, it seems, unless there's an equal distribution of who
gets the clickers, the system will implode. And even with
an insane thing like regulating NeoBux -- growth can only
come from getting more clicks, and getting more clicks
comes from getting more users. This fundamentally limits
the system. You just get the direct referral problem happening
later on, in a more dispersed and abstract way.

So - the fundamental flaw: people can only be rented to one
person at a time. Which is great for the people who got into the
system really fast. But soon, the people who are clicking to
get their referral clicks will notice a decline in the referral
clicks (because the referrals aren't getting clicks from the
people THEY rented), and accordingly, will become rather
demotivized and probably stop clicking.

And guess how that'll end up?

Even in the best-case scenario where everyone clicked 4 ads
each day, the only way to get more clicks is to invite more people
into NeoBux so you can use their clicks. And why will they
click? Who knows -- everyone's already rented to someone! (theoretically)


What's the solution?

I'll take a stab: a system that is integrated with something else,
probably a social networking site or something. Like a facebook
NeoBux or a Gmail NeoBux, or something like that. In a similar
vein as Swagbucks, where the company provides incentives to
look at otherwise-annoying ads. Now, because those ads are
being seen, you've gotten exposure to product x. And so it
would in that way be a win-win scenario.

New Horizons: The Stock Market?

As all 8 of you are aware (assuming that all 8 of you actually read this blog, which is presumptuous of me), I haven't posted a blog update... for a really, really long time. Not as long as a year, but I'm not exactly posting every month.

I'm not sure what to do about the title of this blog - "Which PTCs Work" - since, as it's turning out, (unless of course I'm just not managing them well, which is entirely possibly and plausible), it's possible that none of them work. At least, not in the way I was planning.

The plan was to gather up a bunch of little PTCs (sites with lower amounts per ad and so also lower payouts), and collect those until I had a substantial profit going. There were two problems with this. One problem was... the lower you go, the less worth the while it is. You can only go so far until you're clicking an ad for $0.0000000001. And I'll bet you my two eye teeth (whatever that phrase means, which I don't know why I thought of, but whatever), that ads like that exist. How many of those ads do you need to make a cent? Yeah, exactly.

The equilibrium of this was to aim in the range of $0.002 and $0.01 (anything above that reeks of scam). Paidtoclick.in was a good one. NeoBux was a good one. DollarClickOrSignUp was a good one. Then I got a job at Subway. That changed my perspective a little. So, clicking on $0.002 ads didn't seem as worth it anymore, and because sites like DCOS eventually went from $0.01 per click to $0.002 per click, and there aren't and weren't that many of them, collecting these sites wasn't exactly that easy, nor profitable. One huge advantage, however, of DCOS, has been that I got 2 referrals who have made me a decent amount of residual income. Just the other day I cashed in $3 for doing... nothing (100% referral earnings). Not too bad. But not too good, either. And as to why they're clicking on those pathetic ads, I have no ideas, but hay, fellas, ty for monae.

So, PTCs are out of the mix for me. Why? Because I want a type of income that I can pass on, one that isn't reliant on getting more people into the game as a means to make money. Low PTCs are one of those, since most of them are scams, and the rest of them ain't worth the effort. However, that doesn't mean that I'll ignore all PTCs. My NeoBux account was suspended because I wasn't using it. The other day, I signed up again. I have no idea if it'll pay off, but I think it's worth playing around with. And it's certainly (if I can get it to work) a PTC that I think would be worth passing on (even though anyone who knows anything about PTCs has already joined it).

Now, what have I moved onto? Just because one version of internet revenue isn't working for me, does that mean that I'll accordingly just eschew the internet altogether? Hell no! I'm too obsessed with this medium to do that! And besides... I'm lazy. I don't like the idea of getting a job and being reliant on that, I don't like hard work, and I'm 20. Whoa. Sound odd? Yeah, I'm odd (although, I guess, who isn't?). The only reason I can conceive of for having a job is one or two of the following:
1. Money to use for what I'll actually do. (i.e. Startup; foot in door; learning capital).
2. Rubbing shoulders with businessmen and learning psychology (i.e. Watching people, interacting with people, as this helps me figure people out, which is one of my goals).

Also, I recently went to a Get Motivated! seminar, and then after that, a financial seminar about Tax Liens, Credit Spreads, and various other stuff. They also talked about Options and, basically, the Stock Market.

Do you remember seeing those Forex and eToro ads in NeoBux, assuming that you've done some NeoBux? Yeah, I'm trying a demo of the stock market on eToro, and reading up on the stock market. Later, I'll probably put some play money in. Right now, I'm doing the demo, where you start out with $2,000 (play money).

So, what am I currently doing?
NeoBux - just started, $0;
GomezPeer - started around 8th month of '09 - So far $12.77. I've made. Make note - I've been having internet connection problems and have been using a rather slow internet.
Swagbucks - started a bit before the 11th month of '09 - $15, and I have requested $5 more last week.

Is this a lot of money? No. Is this money that you could be making with pretty much no effort on your part? Yes. So, essentially, if you're not using these two programs, you've lost, possibly, $27, over about an 8 month period (might be different, might not. I just chose a number so I could work with something). I know, so impressive. That's why I'm trying to figure out more stuff to do on top of those. And $27 for 8 months is, sometimes, a lot more to show for what you've done than what you might get for a year of PTCing. Sheesh - I spent around $200 on bux.to! How's that for stupid! Shoulda spent it on NeoBux... Anyway, I'm trying to figure out more stuff to do, how I can help more people, et cetera. And I probably will spend that $90 on NeoBux, because it looks a heck of a lot more stable than bux.to ever was.

The next question, accordingly, is How can you help others*, without putting a crank in your neck by doing all the dirty work that would seem to be required of a business? How can you help others*, and still just click buttons on your computer, and make a killing, and help others make a killing?
I have no idea. Yet. 


Stocks look like a definite possibility. Funded by getting a job and getting some leeway started. Definitely will want to consider more stuff, though. Don't like the looks of a job. I'd rather do odd jobs here and there... but could I do those through the internet? Maybe Odesk...


*Focusing on helping others gets you money, and giving it away, means you keep the money. This is what the guy from the financial seminar said. Internal focus means you'll never keep the money; outward focus gets you money like there's no tomorrow. The problem that I'm having with that is this: 
"Ok, so I want money. So, how can I help you, because I want your money?" It seems a little... contradictory. Also, another focus is that of competency.

Not Really Enthused.

I've finally decided to say it: I've become rather disinterested in
PTCs as of late. The earnings simply aren't enough. And it's
really tedious. I've lost interest in them. So the "lots of little
ones that add up to a lot" doesn't really work out - there
aren't enough, and the pay is too low.

There's also the problem of Why I'm doing them. I'm doing
them to get paid, and you know what? That's why the PTC
rate always gets lower after a while. You see a new PTC up
with $0.01 per click? A few months later it's at $0.005, and
soon it's at $0.0001? Yeah, and guess why. It's cause the
eyeballs going to the ads aren't worth much more than that,
and the expectations are adjusted accordingly.

A few of the other things I've been doing have been working
out alright, and I'll definitely be sticking with them, and hopefully
trying to find more of them. There are two of them, so far.

One is Swagbucks (yes, that's a referral link).


The other is Gomez (yes, another referral link).

(annnnnnd, the picture isn't working... it's a pretty one, too!)

These two are the main survivors of that PTC test that
I've been trying to figure out. With Gomez, you're providing
value to website testers, and they pay you accordingly.
With Swagbucks, it's more of a paying-you-for-what-you're-
already doing type. Really, that's what both of them are like -
having your computer being turned on and on the internet,
and getting paid for that is pretty much getting paid for what
you were already doing.

work-online.org.uk was another promising site, but it
has two important downfalls. One of them is that the
keywords are hella-annoying to incorporate, and sometimes
even, understand. The other is that there isn't a consistent
amount of work available. And the kicker is that you don't
exactly know how the writing is being used, except that it's
for "research". Much be rather shoddy research...

So, there are two things that I'm focusing on right now.
One is that of being paid for what I already do
(searches, chatting, whatever), and trying to find
two more methods of earning money, one of which
is that of setting up little things here and there that would
make me a little cash, and can be automated. Then
I could just make a lot of those, and it would eventually
accumulate.

The other thought I have is doing odd jobs here and
there, such as helping out older people figure out how to
use computers. Apparently there's a demand for that.

I'm not sure if I'll change the blog name or whatnot,
but things are going to start changing a bit. One thing
I don't want to end up doing is that of referral hogging
(which is when you're competing for referrals because
only you and not other people benefit from that).
Instead, I'd rather have something that I could use myself,
and then share it with others if it's even worth having.
Such as Swagbucks and Gomez. Perhaps it could
be a community sort of process, where everyone ends
up sharing their money-making methods, till eventually
we're all rich. :-) Now there's a thought!

You might be wondering, if I'm trying to avoid
referral-hogging, why I posted up my referral links
instead of the main links. Well, because for those
who would see the links and just sign up haphazardly...
why not? If you see it and want to share it with someone
with the main link or your referral link, go for it!
But you do know that the way these things spread
is through incentivising people recruiting each other?
and so that's partially what I'm doing. It's just that
if you end up taking that part too seriously,
and put the dependence of your livelihood on it,
that's when it becomes referral-hogging, and
that's the part that I'm trying to avoid.

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