Monday, April 19, 2010

Not Really Enthused.

I've finally decided to say it: I've become rather disinterested in
PTCs as of late. The earnings simply aren't enough. And it's
really tedious. I've lost interest in them. So the "lots of little
ones that add up to a lot" doesn't really work out - there
aren't enough, and the pay is too low.

There's also the problem of Why I'm doing them. I'm doing
them to get paid, and you know what? That's why the PTC
rate always gets lower after a while. You see a new PTC up
with $0.01 per click? A few months later it's at $0.005, and
soon it's at $0.0001? Yeah, and guess why. It's cause the
eyeballs going to the ads aren't worth much more than that,
and the expectations are adjusted accordingly.

A few of the other things I've been doing have been working
out alright, and I'll definitely be sticking with them, and hopefully
trying to find more of them. There are two of them, so far.

One is Swagbucks (yes, that's a referral link).
Search & Win

The other is Gomez (yes, another referral link).

(annnnnnd, the picture isn't working... it's a pretty one, too!)

These two are the main survivors of that PTC test that
I've been trying to figure out. With Gomez, you're providing
value to website testers, and they pay you accordingly.
With Swagbucks, it's more of a paying-you-for-what-you're-
already doing type. Really, that's what both of them are like -
having your computer being turned on and on the internet,
and getting paid for that is pretty much getting paid for what
you were already doing.

work-online.org.uk was another promising site, but it
has two important downfalls. One of them is that the
keywords are hella-annoying to incorporate, and sometimes
even, understand. The other is that there isn't a consistent
amount of work available. And the kicker is that you don't
exactly know how the writing is being used, except that it's
for "research". Much be rather shoddy research...

So, there are two things that I'm focusing on right now.
One is that of being paid for what I already do
(searches, chatting, whatever), and trying to find
two more methods of earning money, one of which
is that of setting up little things here and there that would
make me a little cash, and can be automated. Then
I could just make a lot of those, and it would eventually
accumulate.

The other thought I have is doing odd jobs here and
there, such as helping out older people figure out how to
use computers. Apparently there's a demand for that.

I'm not sure if I'll change the blog name or whatnot,
but things are going to start changing a bit. One thing
I don't want to end up doing is that of referral hogging
(which is when you're competing for referrals because
only you and not other people benefit from that).
Instead, I'd rather have something that I could use myself,
and then share it with others if it's even worth having.
Such as Swagbucks and Gomez. Perhaps it could
be a community sort of process, where everyone ends
up sharing their money-making methods, till eventually
we're all rich. :-) Now there's a thought!

You might be wondering, if I'm trying to avoid
referral-hogging, why I posted up my referral links
instead of the main links. Well, because for those
who would see the links and just sign up haphazardly...
why not? If you see it and want to share it with someone
with the main link or your referral link, go for it!
But you do know that the way these things spread
is through incentivising people recruiting each other?
and so that's partially what I'm doing. It's just that
if you end up taking that part too seriously,
and put the dependence of your livelihood on it,
that's when it becomes referral-hogging, and
that's the part that I'm trying to avoid.

Tuesday, March 2, 2010

Decent PTC? review: ClixSense (ongoing / semi-decent)

Number of ads: 3-15 (varies) (without the upgrade)
Pay per ad: $0.01 to $0.02
Cashout: $10

$10 / (3*$0.01) or (15 * $0.02) = 333 days or 30 days.

This will be investigated further.

"5-10"
http://www.workathomenoscams.com/2009/07/21/is-clixsense-com-a-scam/

"4-5" (india), "20" (upgraded), "2-4" (india)
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1285984.aspx

"lots of ads after premium, and then 1-5", "2"
http://ptc-investgations.blogspot.com/2009/06/clixsense-clixsensecom-legit.html

Will track number of ads daily to find overall average:
3-2-10: "5 clix found" "Only displaying listings matching your profile settings." (I have everything checked)

Monday, March 1, 2010

Decent PTC? review: OleBux (not decent)

Number of ads: 6
Pay per ad: 6 ($0.005) = $0.03
Cashout: $2 or 50 clicks

$2 / $0.03 = 67 days.

Decent PTC? review: SkyperPTC (not decent)

Number of ads: 5
Pay per ad: 2 ($0.001), 3 ($0.0005) = $0.0035
Cashout: $1

$1 / $0.0035 = 285 days

Decent PTC? review: AdPTC (not decent)

Number of ads: 10
Pay per ad: 10 ($0.002) = $0.02
Cashout: (from PTC-Invt) $1

$1 / $0.02 = 50 days

Decent PTC? review: EarnEasyCash (decent)

Number of ads: 84
Pay per ad: bulk of 3; ($0.002), ($0.0353), ($0.025) = $0.038
Cashout: $0.90

$0.90 / $0.038 = 23.5 days.

Decent PTC? review: ClickOrSignup (unknown)

Number of ads: ?
Pay per ad: $0.02+
Cashout: $1

The daily clicks sometimes are not there.

Decent PTC? review: PTCInnovation (not decent)

Number of ads: 20
Pay per ad: 4 ($0.002), 8 ($0.0015), 8 ($0.001) = $0.028
Cashout: $2

$2 / $0.028 = 71 days.

Decent PTC? review: MagicalClix (not decent)

Number of ads: 39
Pay per ad: 4 ($0.007), 4 ($0.0035), 4 ($0.0025), 24 ($0.0015), 1 ($0.0014), 2 ($0.0001) = $0.0666
Cashout: (from PTC-Investigations) $10

$10 / $0.0666 = 150 days.
Also, to get cashout, becoming a
premium member is required.

Decent PTC? review: Indoclix (decent)

Number of ads: 38
Pay per ad: 1 ($0.001), 37 ($0.0005) = $0.0195
Cashout: $0.10

$0.10 / $0.0195 = 5 days.
Looks good!

Decent PTC? review: DealBarbiePays (not decent)

Number of ads: 4
Pay per ad: 1 ($0.01), 1 ($0.0025), 2 ($.0015) = $0.014
Cashout: $10

$10 / $0.014 = 714 days.

Decent PTC? review: HalfPennyClicks (semi-decent)

Number of ads: 7,
Pay per ad: 7 ($0.025), 4 (paid to read $0.025) = $0.0275
Cashout: $1

$1 / $0.0275 = 36 days

Off by 6 days. This one's sort of a toss-up to me,
since I do like it; though I didn't like it when the
pay was decreased from half a penny to half of
a half of a penny.

Decent PTC? review: Neobux (not decent)

Number of ads: 4
Pay per: $0.01
Cashout: $2, 3, 4... 10

$2 / $0.04 = 50 days
One of the better ones, but still
no enchilada. It's not "decent" in
the sense that I'm using the word...
still one of my favs though.
Instand payout, popularity, and
all that jazz. But no, it's not decent,
unfortunately.

Decent PTC? review: CashSwing (decent)

Number of ads: 113
Pay per ad: 5 ($0.001), 2 (paid to read ad $0.0025), 5 ($0.0075), 1 ($0.005), 112 ($0.00025) = $0.0805
Cashout: $1

$1 / $0.0805 = 12.5 days

Although, there's that little catch of 112 ads at $0.00025.
However, since they're all concentrated at one spot, and
since we might end up clicking at a lot of ads at other
places.... I'm considering it!

Hm... without those 112, it is....?
Pay per ad: 5 ($0.001), 2 (paid to read ad $0.0025), 5 ($0.0075), 1 ($0.005) = $0.0525
$1 / $0.0525 = 19 days
Not bad!

Decent PTC? review: incentria (not decent)

Number of ads: 15
Pay per ad: $0.001
Cashout: $1

$1 / $0.015 = 67 days.
If you had a friend or two to
join you, this would probably be
a decent PTC. However, the focus of
these reviews is to have referrals
be unnecessary.

Saturday, February 27, 2010

(ad post test)

Can the burst suggest an orchestral microprocessor?

Decent PTC? review: PTC Sky (not decent)

Number of ads: 12
Pay per: 1 ($0.00125), 3 ($0.001), 8 ($0.0005) = $0.00825
Time per: 1 (20 sec), 11 (10) = 130 seconds
Cashout: $1

$1 / $0.00825 = 121 days

Thursday, February 25, 2010

1st Decent PTC? review: TheClixWorld (not decent)

Since I was on TheClixWorld, I thought I'd start with
that one.

Number of ads: 16
-Checked over a period of time? No.
Pay per: 14 ($0.00125), 2 ($0.0001) = $0.0177
-Checked over a period of time? No.
Time per ad: 12 (10 sec), 1 (20 sec), 1 (15 sec), 1 (7 sec), 1 (0 sec) = 162 seconds
Cashout: (paypal) $3.49

$3.49 / $0.0177 = 197 days

Also: The website loads really slow for me, which is annoying...

Conclusion: This is not a decent PTC. It has the markings of one - number
of ads, pay per ad, and time spent, but the cashout is its vice. $3,49 put it
at a 197 day wait, which simply isn't decent.

(Please note: As things change over time, this post will change over
time to reflect the status of this PTC; for example, if it goes scam.)

What makes a PTC "decent"?

1. The setup of the daily ads and the cashout 
makes it possible to cashout in 10-30 days.
2. The ads are worth at least and preferrably 
more than $0.0001.
3. Time spent on the ad being not more than 
40 seconds, although this one is more optional, 
depending on the quality of 1 and 2.


The idea is to gather up a lot of PTCs 
instead of focusing on one, so that 
you get a lot of little cashouts quick. 
What would you prefer, a PTC that has 
4 ads per day at $0.01, with a $2.00 
cashout that will eventually go to $10 
(Neobux), 
or a lot of little PTCs that you can cashout 
in 10-30 days?


Also:

I've already been through this before, so to start with 
I'm going to go through PTC-Investigation's Legit PTCs 
list and find the PTCs that are decent. After that I'll be 
searching for PTCs as well as taking suggestions.

Monday, February 22, 2010

Rethinking PTCs

About 2-3 months ago I had planned on shutting down this blog (which I did by not posting on it), and perhaps even deleting the contents. Two things kept me from doing the second - I hate it when I lose data (because it's really annoying and it screws up figuring out what happened in the past), and I kept using the PTCs now and then, though mainly NeoBux. I've been doing a lot of thinking about a lot of stuff lately, and I also got a job about a month back. Getting a job (at Subway) changed my perspective on the scale of things. Getting a $100 check after a week is a lot different than, say, putting in 1 year at bux.to (I know, I know, that's a tad unfair to PTCs) and getting $10.

So I've rethought PTCs, why we do them, why advertisers do them, and it seems kind of weird to me how the two approaches are almost mutually exclusive. There are the PTCers (you and I, if you're doing PTCs) who are after money primarily, and then there are the advertisers, who are looking to get their content promoted. The main appeal of this approach - PTC - is that it seems easy for both sides. The advertisers can pay for their ad to be seen by ad clickers (the workers), and the PTCers can click through the ads like workers. It's win-win for both sides, with minimal effort.

Or is it?

One thing that I noticed about new start-ups, such as DollarClickOrSignUp, is that the site starts with a high-pay -- $0.02 or $0.01 -- and then over time, that amount slowly declines, until it's at about $0.005 for all of the ads, instead of the few at the end. And now it's at $0.005 in the front and $0.0025 for the rest of the pages. It's at this point that it's, at least for me, "no longer worth it," which is the point of this blog - 'a search for decent PTCs.'

There are a few questions that I've come to about this, because if this isn't working, and it hasn't been working for a long time, why the hell is it taking so long for it to work? This being internet-based and all, it would make, perhaps, more sense for there to be a quick adjustment. Here, then, are what I think are the essential questions to ask:
1. Why are you PTCing?
2. Why are advertisers using PTCs as a means of advertising?
3. Is there a gap between PTC users and PTC advertisers - is there an expectation on one side that is impossible to meet?

Imagine that you're an advertiser, and you want your stuff to be seen. Are you going to want the casual PTC user to just combine your ad with a whole bunch of other sites?* No, you're going to want that user to actually look at the friggin' ad. Why the hell are you paying him if he or she isn't going to look?! 
And so you adjust your prices to pay him/her accordingly...
*(This is a technique used to get the maximum amount of money for a minimum amount of work, and it usually involves tabs and keeping PTC sites in a favorites folder)

The majority of people who are coming to this blog would be PTCers like myself - there's not really a need to say, "Imagine that you're a PTCer." Instead, there's the question - why are you PTCing? The answer tends to fall along the lines of "easy money", with serious PTCers ... kind of online addicts. (Ahem... me.) I have been looking for a way to make money online, partially because I didn't want to get "a real job". That's one reason out of a vast majority of reasons, of why various people PTC. However, if the most common reason, why the vast majority of people PTC can be answered, then a revision of PTCs can be made.

The big problem with the disconnect between PTCers and advertisers is pretty much that PTCers want to have their cake and eat it too. This has been referred to as "there is no such thing as a free lunch." This is a touchy subject for me. But it needs to be dealt with.

One solution to the problem of people not paying attention to ads was suggested to me by a site that utilized it - the site only counted down when you were looking at it. Possibly, the reason why it didn't stick around was
that it didn't address the basic want, so people stopped using it. Or was it Palmbux? I forget. However, before we get to solutions, it would be a good idea to address the basic philosophy this is all built on. After this has been done, PTCs, or perhaps the user, or perhaps the advertiser -- or perhaps all three, can be improved and innovated.