Monday, June 28, 2010

New Horizons: The Stock Market?

As all 8 of you are aware (assuming that all 8 of you actually read this blog, which is presumptuous of me), I haven't posted a blog update... for a really, really long time. Not as long as a year, but I'm not exactly posting every month.

I'm not sure what to do about the title of this blog - "Which PTCs Work" - since, as it's turning out, (unless of course I'm just not managing them well, which is entirely possibly and plausible), it's possible that none of them work. At least, not in the way I was planning.

The plan was to gather up a bunch of little PTCs (sites with lower amounts per ad and so also lower payouts), and collect those until I had a substantial profit going. There were two problems with this. One problem was... the lower you go, the less worth the while it is. You can only go so far until you're clicking an ad for $0.0000000001. And I'll bet you my two eye teeth (whatever that phrase means, which I don't know why I thought of, but whatever), that ads like that exist. How many of those ads do you need to make a cent? Yeah, exactly.

The equilibrium of this was to aim in the range of $0.002 and $0.01 (anything above that reeks of scam). Paidtoclick.in was a good one. NeoBux was a good one. DollarClickOrSignUp was a good one. Then I got a job at Subway. That changed my perspective a little. So, clicking on $0.002 ads didn't seem as worth it anymore, and because sites like DCOS eventually went from $0.01 per click to $0.002 per click, and there aren't and weren't that many of them, collecting these sites wasn't exactly that easy, nor profitable. One huge advantage, however, of DCOS, has been that I got 2 referrals who have made me a decent amount of residual income. Just the other day I cashed in $3 for doing... nothing (100% referral earnings). Not too bad. But not too good, either. And as to why they're clicking on those pathetic ads, I have no ideas, but hay, fellas, ty for monae.

So, PTCs are out of the mix for me. Why? Because I want a type of income that I can pass on, one that isn't reliant on getting more people into the game as a means to make money. Low PTCs are one of those, since most of them are scams, and the rest of them ain't worth the effort. However, that doesn't mean that I'll ignore all PTCs. My NeoBux account was suspended because I wasn't using it. The other day, I signed up again. I have no idea if it'll pay off, but I think it's worth playing around with. And it's certainly (if I can get it to work) a PTC that I think would be worth passing on (even though anyone who knows anything about PTCs has already joined it).

Now, what have I moved onto? Just because one version of internet revenue isn't working for me, does that mean that I'll accordingly just eschew the internet altogether? Hell no! I'm too obsessed with this medium to do that! And besides... I'm lazy. I don't like the idea of getting a job and being reliant on that, I don't like hard work, and I'm 20. Whoa. Sound odd? Yeah, I'm odd (although, I guess, who isn't?). The only reason I can conceive of for having a job is one or two of the following:
1. Money to use for what I'll actually do. (i.e. Startup; foot in door; learning capital).
2. Rubbing shoulders with businessmen and learning psychology (i.e. Watching people, interacting with people, as this helps me figure people out, which is one of my goals).

Also, I recently went to a Get Motivated! seminar, and then after that, a financial seminar about Tax Liens, Credit Spreads, and various other stuff. They also talked about Options and, basically, the Stock Market.

Do you remember seeing those Forex and eToro ads in NeoBux, assuming that you've done some NeoBux? Yeah, I'm trying a demo of the stock market on eToro, and reading up on the stock market. Later, I'll probably put some play money in. Right now, I'm doing the demo, where you start out with $2,000 (play money).

So, what am I currently doing?
NeoBux - just started, $0;
GomezPeer - started around 8th month of '09 - So far $12.77. I've made. Make note - I've been having internet connection problems and have been using a rather slow internet.
Swagbucks - started a bit before the 11th month of '09 - $15, and I have requested $5 more last week.

Is this a lot of money? No. Is this money that you could be making with pretty much no effort on your part? Yes. So, essentially, if you're not using these two programs, you've lost, possibly, $27, over about an 8 month period (might be different, might not. I just chose a number so I could work with something). I know, so impressive. That's why I'm trying to figure out more stuff to do on top of those. And $27 for 8 months is, sometimes, a lot more to show for what you've done than what you might get for a year of PTCing. Sheesh - I spent around $200 on bux.to! How's that for stupid! Shoulda spent it on NeoBux... Anyway, I'm trying to figure out more stuff to do, how I can help more people, et cetera. And I probably will spend that $90 on NeoBux, because it looks a heck of a lot more stable than bux.to ever was.

The next question, accordingly, is How can you help others*, without putting a crank in your neck by doing all the dirty work that would seem to be required of a business? How can you help others*, and still just click buttons on your computer, and make a killing, and help others make a killing?
I have no idea. Yet. 


Stocks look like a definite possibility. Funded by getting a job and getting some leeway started. Definitely will want to consider more stuff, though. Don't like the looks of a job. I'd rather do odd jobs here and there... but could I do those through the internet? Maybe Odesk...


*Focusing on helping others gets you money, and giving it away, means you keep the money. This is what the guy from the financial seminar said. Internal focus means you'll never keep the money; outward focus gets you money like there's no tomorrow. The problem that I'm having with that is this: 
"Ok, so I want money. So, how can I help you, because I want your money?" It seems a little... contradictory. Also, another focus is that of competency.

Tuesday, May 4, 2010

PTC Investigations Moved

From the new site:
"Blog Deleted by Google


Google blogger deleted us due to running a blog about ptc sites. They consider it now as spam. We did receive a review from blogger months ago and past inspection.  They approved us and unlocked our blog, even though the bot had marked us as spam. Not too sure if they will unlock it this time due to recent reports we have received from other bloggers who were unsuccessful in unlocking theirs. 

So we got good news and bad news. The good news is that we have our work saved on file up to April 14th. Just a little over 2 weeks of work is lost. Bad news, it will take time for us to upload all the info onto this site/domain. I have to do it by hand. So give us time to get things going again. If I don't respond to email, you know why. I am busy. So requests to review sites will be on hold till we get all the info uploaded again.

I had a feeling this was going to happen, but dreaded having to move everything here. We already had this domain for several months. Just getting around to moving everything was a hassle. Looks like Google forced us into getting it done. We still love blogger, even though they no longer love us. We will still carry on. Just have to work harder to get everything going again.

For those who were sponsored in rotators, it will take time for the search engines to find us again. So you wont see the results as you did before. That is if you were lucky to gain referrals from our banners.

Well let me get to it...see you guys soon ...

~ PTC Investigations ~

 This page was last modified on May 03, 2010"

The old site (which won't give you anything now): http://ptc-investgations.blogspot.com/
The new site: http://ptc-investigation.com/default.aspx

:-) Looks like the name changed for the better, though that's a very small reason to be glad.

Monday, April 19, 2010

Not Really Enthused.

I've finally decided to say it: I've become rather disinterested in
PTCs as of late. The earnings simply aren't enough. And it's
really tedious. I've lost interest in them. So the "lots of little
ones that add up to a lot" doesn't really work out - there
aren't enough, and the pay is too low.

There's also the problem of Why I'm doing them. I'm doing
them to get paid, and you know what? That's why the PTC
rate always gets lower after a while. You see a new PTC up
with $0.01 per click? A few months later it's at $0.005, and
soon it's at $0.0001? Yeah, and guess why. It's cause the
eyeballs going to the ads aren't worth much more than that,
and the expectations are adjusted accordingly.

A few of the other things I've been doing have been working
out alright, and I'll definitely be sticking with them, and hopefully
trying to find more of them. There are two of them, so far.

One is Swagbucks (yes, that's a referral link).
Search & Win

The other is Gomez (yes, another referral link).

(annnnnnd, the picture isn't working... it's a pretty one, too!)

These two are the main survivors of that PTC test that
I've been trying to figure out. With Gomez, you're providing
value to website testers, and they pay you accordingly.
With Swagbucks, it's more of a paying-you-for-what-you're-
already doing type. Really, that's what both of them are like -
having your computer being turned on and on the internet,
and getting paid for that is pretty much getting paid for what
you were already doing.

work-online.org.uk was another promising site, but it
has two important downfalls. One of them is that the
keywords are hella-annoying to incorporate, and sometimes
even, understand. The other is that there isn't a consistent
amount of work available. And the kicker is that you don't
exactly know how the writing is being used, except that it's
for "research". Much be rather shoddy research...

So, there are two things that I'm focusing on right now.
One is that of being paid for what I already do
(searches, chatting, whatever), and trying to find
two more methods of earning money, one of which
is that of setting up little things here and there that would
make me a little cash, and can be automated. Then
I could just make a lot of those, and it would eventually
accumulate.

The other thought I have is doing odd jobs here and
there, such as helping out older people figure out how to
use computers. Apparently there's a demand for that.

I'm not sure if I'll change the blog name or whatnot,
but things are going to start changing a bit. One thing
I don't want to end up doing is that of referral hogging
(which is when you're competing for referrals because
only you and not other people benefit from that).
Instead, I'd rather have something that I could use myself,
and then share it with others if it's even worth having.
Such as Swagbucks and Gomez. Perhaps it could
be a community sort of process, where everyone ends
up sharing their money-making methods, till eventually
we're all rich. :-) Now there's a thought!

You might be wondering, if I'm trying to avoid
referral-hogging, why I posted up my referral links
instead of the main links. Well, because for those
who would see the links and just sign up haphazardly...
why not? If you see it and want to share it with someone
with the main link or your referral link, go for it!
But you do know that the way these things spread
is through incentivising people recruiting each other?
and so that's partially what I'm doing. It's just that
if you end up taking that part too seriously,
and put the dependence of your livelihood on it,
that's when it becomes referral-hogging, and
that's the part that I'm trying to avoid.

Tuesday, March 2, 2010

Decent PTC? review: ClixSense (ongoing / semi-decent)

Number of ads: 3-15 (varies) (without the upgrade)
Pay per ad: $0.01 to $0.02
Cashout: $10

$10 / (3*$0.01) or (15 * $0.02) = 333 days or 30 days.

This will be investigated further.

"5-10"
http://www.workathomenoscams.com/2009/07/21/is-clixsense-com-a-scam/

"4-5" (india), "20" (upgraded), "2-4" (india)
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1285984.aspx

"lots of ads after premium, and then 1-5", "2"
http://ptc-investgations.blogspot.com/2009/06/clixsense-clixsensecom-legit.html

Will track number of ads daily to find overall average:
3-2-10: "5 clix found" "Only displaying listings matching your profile settings." (I have everything checked)

Monday, March 1, 2010

Decent PTC? review: OleBux (not decent)

Number of ads: 6
Pay per ad: 6 ($0.005) = $0.03
Cashout: $2 or 50 clicks

$2 / $0.03 = 67 days.

Decent PTC? review: SkyperPTC (not decent)

Number of ads: 5
Pay per ad: 2 ($0.001), 3 ($0.0005) = $0.0035
Cashout: $1

$1 / $0.0035 = 285 days

Decent PTC? review: AdPTC (not decent)

Number of ads: 10
Pay per ad: 10 ($0.002) = $0.02
Cashout: (from PTC-Invt) $1

$1 / $0.02 = 50 days

Decent PTC? review: EarnEasyCash (decent)

Number of ads: 84
Pay per ad: bulk of 3; ($0.002), ($0.0353), ($0.025) = $0.038
Cashout: $0.90

$0.90 / $0.038 = 23.5 days.

Decent PTC? review: ClickOrSignup (unknown)

Number of ads: ?
Pay per ad: $0.02+
Cashout: $1

The daily clicks sometimes are not there.

Decent PTC? review: PTCInnovation (not decent)

Number of ads: 20
Pay per ad: 4 ($0.002), 8 ($0.0015), 8 ($0.001) = $0.028
Cashout: $2

$2 / $0.028 = 71 days.

Decent PTC? review: MagicalClix (not decent)

Number of ads: 39
Pay per ad: 4 ($0.007), 4 ($0.0035), 4 ($0.0025), 24 ($0.0015), 1 ($0.0014), 2 ($0.0001) = $0.0666
Cashout: (from PTC-Investigations) $10

$10 / $0.0666 = 150 days.
Also, to get cashout, becoming a
premium member is required.

Decent PTC? review: Indoclix (decent)

Number of ads: 38
Pay per ad: 1 ($0.001), 37 ($0.0005) = $0.0195
Cashout: $0.10

$0.10 / $0.0195 = 5 days.
Looks good!

Decent PTC? review: DealBarbiePays (not decent)

Number of ads: 4
Pay per ad: 1 ($0.01), 1 ($0.0025), 2 ($.0015) = $0.014
Cashout: $10

$10 / $0.014 = 714 days.

Decent PTC? review: HalfPennyClicks (semi-decent)

Number of ads: 7,
Pay per ad: 7 ($0.025), 4 (paid to read $0.025) = $0.0275
Cashout: $1

$1 / $0.0275 = 36 days

Off by 6 days. This one's sort of a toss-up to me,
since I do like it; though I didn't like it when the
pay was decreased from half a penny to half of
a half of a penny.

Decent PTC? review: Neobux (not decent)

Number of ads: 4
Pay per: $0.01
Cashout: $2, 3, 4... 10

$2 / $0.04 = 50 days
One of the better ones, but still
no enchilada. It's not "decent" in
the sense that I'm using the word...
still one of my favs though.
Instand payout, popularity, and
all that jazz. But no, it's not decent,
unfortunately.

Decent PTC? review: CashSwing (decent)

Number of ads: 113
Pay per ad: 5 ($0.001), 2 (paid to read ad $0.0025), 5 ($0.0075), 1 ($0.005), 112 ($0.00025) = $0.0805
Cashout: $1

$1 / $0.0805 = 12.5 days

Although, there's that little catch of 112 ads at $0.00025.
However, since they're all concentrated at one spot, and
since we might end up clicking at a lot of ads at other
places.... I'm considering it!

Hm... without those 112, it is....?
Pay per ad: 5 ($0.001), 2 (paid to read ad $0.0025), 5 ($0.0075), 1 ($0.005) = $0.0525
$1 / $0.0525 = 19 days
Not bad!

Decent PTC? review: incentria (not decent)

Number of ads: 15
Pay per ad: $0.001
Cashout: $1

$1 / $0.015 = 67 days.
If you had a friend or two to
join you, this would probably be
a decent PTC. However, the focus of
these reviews is to have referrals
be unnecessary.

Saturday, February 27, 2010

(ad post test)

Can the burst suggest an orchestral microprocessor?

Decent PTC? review: PTC Sky (not decent)

Number of ads: 12
Pay per: 1 ($0.00125), 3 ($0.001), 8 ($0.0005) = $0.00825
Time per: 1 (20 sec), 11 (10) = 130 seconds
Cashout: $1

$1 / $0.00825 = 121 days

Thursday, February 25, 2010

1st Decent PTC? review: TheClixWorld (not decent)

Since I was on TheClixWorld, I thought I'd start with
that one.

Number of ads: 16
-Checked over a period of time? No.
Pay per: 14 ($0.00125), 2 ($0.0001) = $0.0177
-Checked over a period of time? No.
Time per ad: 12 (10 sec), 1 (20 sec), 1 (15 sec), 1 (7 sec), 1 (0 sec) = 162 seconds
Cashout: (paypal) $3.49

$3.49 / $0.0177 = 197 days

Also: The website loads really slow for me, which is annoying...

Conclusion: This is not a decent PTC. It has the markings of one - number
of ads, pay per ad, and time spent, but the cashout is its vice. $3,49 put it
at a 197 day wait, which simply isn't decent.

(Please note: As things change over time, this post will change over
time to reflect the status of this PTC; for example, if it goes scam.)