Wednesday, September 30, 2009

$5 from ClicksVista!

So, guess what? That site I was talking about before? $5 from it! I was trying it out until I got to the minimum, to see if I'd actually get paid. And I did!

If you click through all of the links, you can make about $2 a day. The payout is every 15 days. Seems like that means $60 per month. Not so bad!


Tuesday, September 29, 2009

NeoBux investment

$5 to NeoBux balance, used to extend referrals.

$0.03 from BigKahunaClicks

$0.04 with 1% fee from BigKahunaClicks.

Monday, September 28, 2009

2 months of profit: PaidToClick.in

August: $0.13
$0.01 (25th)
$0.05 (27th)
$0.07 (31st)
(avg: 3 days)

September: $0.59
$0.03 (2nd)
$0.06 (10th)
$0.19 (17th)
$0.12 (21st)
$0.19 (28th)
(avg: 6.5 days.)

$0.19 from PaidToClick.in



Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Tuesday, September 22, 2009

Requested $0.53 from slobux


DateAmountPaidProcessed dateProcessor
Today, 08:09$0.53NoNo timestamp

$0.12 from PaidToClick.in


Monday, September 21, 2009

Payment from BigKahunaClicks: $0.04

I'm not sure if I'll classify it as decent. Seems more like kinda decent.



Sunday, September 20, 2009

BigKahunaClicks payout request

$0.05 withdrawl, fees make for $0.04.

Friday, September 18, 2009

No Decent PTCs?



Perhaps I simply haven't been in the PTCs long enough. Right now is rough times, at least for my NeoBux. I'm still trying to figure out a strategy that works, and there's a lot of background maintenance going on. If, however, all of the PTCs that pay can be found, perhaps a combination of them would be a decent pay? Eliminating the high-paying PTCs (scams), the BuxHost scams (most BuxHost sites), and only going off of the better-paying PTCs shown on PTC-Investigations, I come up with NeoBux (possibly not though, if you want a fast/big income with rents right away) and PaidToClick.in. PaidToClick.in, which I highly recommend of all of the PTC sites, will probably give you a monthly income of about $0.50 (based on making about 1.5 to 2 cents a day). Which, again, isn't much, but it is decent, considering how most PTCs go and work.

On the upside, I recently found two higher-paying PTCs, and prospects look good:
#1. ClicksVista
#2. QuidsCorner

So, I might start focusing on those if I get paid by them. The concept is similar to PTCing, except with a few extra clicks, and no wait time.

Thursday, September 17, 2009

$0.19 from PaidToClick.in!

It took about a week, and boy did the clicks add up! ... I've been enjoying a bit of competition with trying to be the top clicker. It's annoying when I've clicked all of the ads but only get #2! XD There are also a lot of LinkBucks links on the site. I've come to simply use firefox to do the bulk of the ads, so that I don't get annoyed when I come across 7-12 LinkBucks ads. While LinkBucks is great for those links that are for information or entertainment, they totally circumvent PTCing!

Tuesday, September 15, 2009

Paid-To-Promote... what?

Found a new website where you're apparently paid to ... promote the website itself?









It says, as you can see, "Paid To Promote Any Website". That's where I'm confused. I copied the html stuff (which is what you see above), but it seems to be only self-promotion. Where does the "any" part come in? Will that be later?


Get paid To Promote at any Location

There's another version of it. Not sure how it works. If indeed it is basically self promotion, I don't see how that's self-sustainable. But hey, if it's free, and we'll get tons of money for signing others up... sure! Why not!

Friday, September 11, 2009

Holy NeoBux Ads Galore!

They were up for about 2 minutes, I think. But WOW, man. Wow. Who are these Capital West Advisors guys?



:-) NeoBux clicks seem to be up

And I changed my strategy so that I wouldn't be drowning for money to use for maintenance. I have turned autopay back on, and I'm going to be leaving it on. Those who click will survive (or at least be more likely to survive) and those who don't, will drop off.
Basically, if those who click don't maintain themselves, then it wasn't meant to be.


There are a few referrals who have just one day left on their rent. They're probably going to drop off -- their clicks are low, and they aren't worth refreshing, since I would both refresh and recycle them ($0.36); I could just rent for $0.28 per referral instead. However, for the referrals who have low clicks but have a lot of days left on them, I'm recycling them.
Rent + renew for 90 days* + autopay + recycling low clicks = win? We'll see.
*well, I've been renewing some of them for 30 days, mostly out of panic. I've stopped doing that.

Thursday, September 10, 2009

What about dem Google Ads?

In my somewhat waning interest for internet money-making ideas, and slight desperation for anything, which, isn't so unusual for me, I've turned to looking at google adsense (having looked at a few decent blogs, http://makemoneyforbeginners.blogspot.com and http://bloggerunleashed.com). I already have it up on my blog, but I don't exactly have a lot of visitors. And, in pre-trospect, why would I have up ads that I didn't feel were worth clicking?

So, I've taken screenshots of the ads, and I'm going to review the sites. If I think the sites are worthwhile, then I'll keep them up. If I think they're full of shit, I'll take the google ads down.


The first one is mrmisupercash. Looks like you have to spend $1 to even find out how it works. Well, maybe later; I'm tight on money.
Second one: midgesonlinewealth. It's looks free, and that's good, but:
"What I discovered will shock YOU!

    • 91% of Work at Home programs are complete and utter SCAM!
    "
    To me, that screams, "I think you're an idiot." It leads to three other opportunities: ZFM, or Zero Friction Marketing, The ClickBank Code, and Copy n Profit, all of which seem to have the price of $77 (seperately).

    Third one: opportunity.com... costs $39.99.

    Fourth one: surveyjobopportunities.com... I don't like survey stuff. I might get to it later.

    Fifth one: hits4pay. Hits4Pay I recommend and use. I have $14.20 on it right now. It sends you emails about new inbox emails to read, and I usually just archive most of them and use the link for the last one once every week and do them all in one shot. Kind of like a slower PTC, almost, that pays $0.02 per click. So, yeah: I like Hits4Pay so far. Cashout is at $25. The main quibble I have with it is that it supports taxes and tax laws, which is anti-thetical to freedom. However, since we don't have freedom from American tyranny of democracy, I consider it as H4P covering their ass.

    Sixth one: Read-4-Cash. This one led me to Worldprofit.com (it was the bonus) along with two people streaming from cams telling me things to do. I watched a 18 minute 10 second video. The read-4-cash site doesn't seem to have much more than a sign-up spot. More details on that later, perhaps. The 2 Worldprofit people there want me to put $90 on my paypal credit to get me signed up for their silver membership and stuff. I'm going to be back in an hour to watch the seminar. I don't think I'll join, but I think the seminar will be interesting. I've already got two strikes against it: $90 cost, and the sponsors badmouthing "skeptic".
    I googled "worldprofit scam" and got a few sites; http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=15888
    had this part, which I found to be true in what I saw, too:
    "Notice what I've watched Mr. Lant and Mr. Carpenter do for the last few days...sat in a public webcam chat channel on their website where they claim to CLOSE YOUR DEALS FOR YOU. CLose what deals? Oh, that's right, all they do is order people to watch their recruitment video, full of vague promises of booming business and cash flowing like wine, and are offered no other instruction other than to consider what package they're going to buy. "
    I was in the chatroom and someone named Elizabeth was talking about how she was disabled. They went on about how she should stop feeling sorry for herself, and the he was disabled and you didn't see him moping about. And, while it's a good lesson to have, it was put across in the rudest way I could imagine. They reminded me of another deal that I have been glad, years later, that I didn't accept. The time limit, the badmouthing skepticism, and their almost-hatred of any questioning of the site's ability... it's left a distaste in my mouth.
    However, some claim to have made profit. So... I'll just say that it's not the sort of site that I would want to use. Maybe you would, though. I don't know.
    It doesn't sound promising, though:
    "I Just sat through a webcast hosted by Dr. Lant. I was promised 50,000 visitors to my website after sitting through the entire webcast. Well, the webcast was long boring and basically shameless self-promotion for "The Silver Package", which you can read about in other posts here. 
    After the "Yawn-cast" I returned to the members area and asked if I would then be credited with my "free visitors" Mr. Jim Carpenter rudely answered my post by saying that after he was finished with his time to promote "The Silver Package" he would take questions."
    (use Ctrl+f, copy the quotes, then paste them on the website page, to find the context of it faster)
    other:
    http://www.ripoffreport.com/Internet-Marketing-Companies/WorldProfit/worldprofit-don-t-get-fooled-l-e8375.htm
    http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/business-financial/15252-world-profit-scam.html

    http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=1631442
    This guy/girl did what I did:
    "Something didn't feel right. You know that gut feeling you get when you know something is too good to be true? I decided that I would not spend anything at that time. Instead, I researched Dr Jeffrey Lant and his amazing WorldProfit outfit."
    "A search for Dr Jeffrey Lant proved a lot more interesting. My search engine had predicted my search terms and as I put in Dr Jeffrey Lant, it added Scam to the search phrase.
    Now I was on to something. Why would such a reputable company, with such an esteemed founder and CEO have an automated search term of 'Jeffrey Lant Scam'?" I had automatically included the phrase... oops?
    "What I found was that WorldProfit was nothing more than a scam. Admittedly a very good scam, but a scam none the less. You see, the $99.95 monthly fee, with no contracts and no cancellation fee was a lie. These guys sell their 'Silver Package' (that is the only package they have) for around $1,200. When unsuspecting victims join, they are actually agreeing to finance this by 12 instalments of $99.95 - try to cancel and they want 30% of the balance, stop paying them and they will hit you with a legal notice and threat of legal action." Which is what I read on that scam.com discussion, too. Sounds expensive.
    "Let me just say, that there were some positive posts and articles. For instance their was the guy praising Dr Lant for all his hard work and fantastic results. As expected however, this was a WorldProfit distributor, not exactly impartial." Yeah, the ones I saw that had positive results were from World Profit, too.
    "A rather positive reply was left, stating how wonderful the company was, how it acknowledged the mistakes it had made but none the less, it was making millionaires out of ordinary people. By the way, that reply was made by Sandi Hunter, the president of the company." What website, dude? (Probably a lot of the same ones I found) Cite it, cite it!
    "I copied all of the URLs that I had found on the WorldProfit Scam and on the Dr Jeffrey Lant Scam and returned to their sales centre. Again, I was greeted by Dr Lant and he immediately asked me why I had not signed up. Then his associate was quick to call me a time waster and a loser.
    Never one to lose my cool, I simply said I had been researching the opportunity and that it all seemed very interesting. They were soon telling me how fantastic their business was and how I was going to be their top producer. Then I hit them with it. I said, 'Jeff, I have been doing some research and whilst I am interested in your program, there are a claims that I would like you to answer'. Well, the good Dr, hate being called Jeff, so I immediately annoyed him. Then I posted the URL links to the page. He read them and after 10 minutes started shouting abuse at me, telling everyone in the forum how I was a pain in his ass, how I was a loser and how I would never make it in life. He was rude, obnoxious and could not answer defend any of the claims against him. Instead, he acted like a child and barred me from his website." I shall expect the same, then. Makes me wish I hadn't used my real name...


    And here's a guy that apparently took the program: http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#5kUDUN/www.worldprofitnews.com//topic:Research
    "But, I attended a few of their live online conferences and watched them a while to see how they operate. I was interested at first because I saw that they where closing sales. So, I decided to check it out some more and I went ahead and bought a silver package to see what it was all about.

    After a few weeks I realized that that was all it was; you buy a silver package and tell other people that they can make money online …and all that they’d have to do is buy their silver package and it would contain all the tools they needed to make money online.
    As a part of the silver package you’re required to go through a boot camp training program and they recommend that sign up to about 20 different traffic exchange and safe list sites. Then you’re supposed to blast your offer out to the safe lists and hope someone will come to your website and hopefully get caught in the same spider web your stupid ass just signed up for.
    After I realized what I had gotten myself into, I sent them a support ticket to have my account canceled and they shut my site down the very next day and never billed me again. So, this entire experience cost me $99 and a lot of wasted time." And perhaps saved some people a whole lot of time.
    Apparently, "After going through that whole ordeal I found something that has been working well for me and I’m now making a full time income online. If you’d like to check out what I’m doing now, you can take a look at two of my websites where I offer a nice bonus for anyone who joins me. Here’s my no.1 recommendation: Secret Affiliate Code. And no.2 is: Four Tier Annihilation Method." So I'll get around to reviewing those sometime.
    http://www.articlesbase.com/home-business-articles/beware-of-the-scam-artists-933071.html
    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080619111410AA6Envy
    http://www.bbbapproved.com/2009/06/world-profit-and-jeffrey-lant-scam/
    "Are you living on air?" is what he said to Elizabeth, too.




    Alright, so: all of the signals I'm getting about World Profit is "IT'S A SCAM!"


    Seventh: SurveyMoneyMachines. Haven't gotten the email yet. I suspect it got caught in the spam box. ... yep it got caught in the spam box. And... it looks like sign up opps. It might be legit, but I just don't like these types of sites.


    Eighth: thelucidlife. Costs $75 to use/join: http://www.lucidroulette.com/lucid/payment.html
    Apparently, though, there's a 110% refund if you can prove that the system mathematically isn't profitable: http://www.lucidroulette.com/lucid/payment_files/shapeimage_4.png
    I doubt that it's "hackable", as it were.




    Conclusion: With the exception of Hits4Pay, they all look pretty glim. I'm thinking of taking the ads down...

    NeoBux... meh.

    Tuesday, September 8, 2009

    So, it's been a few days...

    After that crash with the referral clicks going down, I sort of lost my enthusiasm. Right now, I'm still doing NeoBux, but much more conservatively, reinvesting the money as well as I can until I can find referrals that will click at good rates. I haven't been using PaidToClick.in, mostly because ... well, I was depressed about the clicks on Neo. It's not really up at all, and I've been doing some recycling, too. Hopefully it will eventually get better.

    I've been thinking about the concept of it. It's basically free money, rents are, unless you invest. So, it's a pretty good deal if you've got the patience for it, which, I'm pretty sure I do. I'm still learning how to work the refs.


    I had $1.022 in my main balance, $1 of which that I transferred into rental. I don't plan on cashing out anytime soon, so why not, y'know?


    I turned autopay off because, as from the advise of one of the posters on the NeoBux forums put, 'it puts you off balance.' I'll probably turn it back on when I'm sure I have mostly steady referrals. So, rule of thumb: keep autopay off until you have stable referrals.

    There are a lot of people on the forum complaining about low ref clicks. I would be included in the people who have been getting lower clicks, but I'm going to say "blind!" until I've spent more time learning the system and figuring out if it really is indeed something to do with the system, or just me. I've also stopped bothering with the daily update. I'll just "check in" once in a while.

    Thursday, September 3, 2009

    Paid again by PaidToClick.in

    Seems that I'm getting a payment about once every 2-3 days. The payments vary from $0.02 to $0.07. So, I'm going to see what the minimum and maximum could be per month.

    30/3 = 10 (min)
    30/2 = 15 (max)

    $0.02 (min)
    $0.07 (max)

    10 * $0.02 = $0.20 per month
    15 * $0.07 = $1.05 per month.

    Nothing special, but still something. For about 15-30 minutes a day, it's alright.

    Wednesday, September 2, 2009

    Work-online.org.uk: Paid and asta la vista!

    Not that I won't check up on it once in a while to see if it's, uh, "improved". But I doubt it will.

    Tuesday, September 1, 2009

    work-online.org.uk: Finally!

    Finally, right now this morning, the last story that I needed to get approved, got approved. I can get my hair out of work-online.org.uk! I shall request my £10.12 and be done with the site!

    NeoBux: "I'm Golden - My Avg Went Down!"

    Thread

    "What THEY tell:
    I was standard with a high avg, when I became Golden avg suddently went down.

    What REALLY happens in most of the cases:
    As standard you need a high avg to "make profit", so you'll recycle your refs.
    As standard you normally have few refs, easier to track the bad ones.

    As Golden you'll rent more refs
    more refs = harder to find the bad ones
    As Golden you'll get the double per ref clicks
    more money = less recycle

    Most people do this, I did, and when they see Avg down they come here and complain."

    NeoBux: AutoPay Explained (finally!) + thinking about a strategy

    I have been reading people who were talking about autopay, and never quite understood it. I assumed that, with autopay, if a referral didn't click, they were auto-replaced. That doesn't sound too good, because what if it was a referral that simply missed a day of clicking? Additionally, it costs $0.008 each day. Either way seems rather dicey. I hadn't understood it until now, and that's why I wasn't using it. However,
    this post had something different to say:
    "Reggen666 already answered your question in the previous post, you don't have to make another post. Autopay is AUTOPAY. Whenever your rented referral clicks, it adds 1 more day to the remaining days of that referral. Example, the ref has 25 days remaining, he clicks today, tomorrow he will still have 25 days remaining."


    So, here's what autopay is:
    Whenever your rented referral clicks, it adds 1 more day to the remaining days of that referral. Example, if the ref has 25 days remaining, and he clicks today, tomorrow he will still have 25 days remaining. This makes autopay an essential feature of NeoBux; essentially, if you find a good rent, you'll never have to renew that referral again. And, since the price is $0.008 per day, you will, apparently, save 10% of the total renew price ($0.28). By my calculations, $0.008 * 30 days = $0.24. So, yes, it's an overall savings.


    Henceforth, I'm turning my autopay on.


    ...out of curiousity....
    1 active... $0.008 per day
    6 active... $0.048
    10 active... $0.08
    25 active... $0.20
    50 active... $0.40
    100 active... $0.80


    50 active ($0.40 per) click 1 ad: $0.25
    click 2 ads: $0.50


    100 active ($0.80) click 1 ad: $0.50
    click 2 ads: $1.00


    Hmm.


    50 with 1.8 avg = -$0.40 + $0.45 = $0.05
    50 with 1.7 avg = -$0.40 + $0.425 = $0.025
    50 with 1.6 avg = -$0.40 + $0.40 = $0


    So, each of them needs an average of at least 1.6 to break even.


    Hm...


    56 rents cost:
    $18.48 to extend 30 more days
    $33 (10% discount) to extend 60 more days
    $44.22 (20% discount) to extend 90 more days
    = (dividing by appropriate days)
    (/30) $0.61.6 per rental
    (/60) $0.55 per rental
    (/90) $0.49 per rental


    Autopay costs per rental (for 30 days):
    $0.008 * 30 = $0.24... Something's off. That or the savings from doing autopay is much more than it looks like.



    Let's focus on just one rent:
    Renew for 30 days: $0.28
    Renew for 60 days: $0.50 (Two 30's = $0.56)
    Renew for 90 days: $0.67 (Three 30's = $0.84)
    Autopay on for 30 days: (.008 * 30) $0.24
    Autopay on for 60 days: (.008 * 60) $0.48
    Autopay on for 90 days: (.008 * 90) $0.72


    Given the current rate of clicking by most of mine (9th day so far), the good clickers will need to be refreshed about once every year, the medium ones about once every 3-4 months, and the bad ones, every month. I guess, then, autopay is a good way of finding out who has a bad record.


    Now, what was with that discrepancy up there? Hmm... 
    $18.48 / 56 = $0.33. 
    But $0.28 / 1 = $0.28.
    And $0.28 * 56 = $15.58, not $18.48.


    ...OH. I have 66 rents, not 56. $18.48 / 66 = $0.28. Good.


    The autopay strategy is useless for the newcoming NeoBuxer. Only after you start building a base of referrals is it useful. Once you get some money flowing, turn it on. However, if you don't feel comfortable with turning it on, don't. What is does, though, is this:
    Autopay:
    IF
    -> rental clicks that day
    THEN
    -> -$0.008 from rental funds
    -> + day to referral that clicked (i.e. the referral clicked that day and he has 25 days left - tomorrow that referral will still have 25 days left)


    What if the rent doesn't click? Then nothing happens. A day goes by. Eventually you'll need to either let it die, refresh it, or renew it if you want to get another referral to pay with. Which of these is more beneficial? Depends. If you let it day, you're down a rent, but you didn't lose any money. If you refresh it, you're refreshing a dead rent - i.e., if you're going to refresh, it should be because there's the possibility of more activity; otherwise, it's because you want to recycle for $0.008 to try out a new user. In this case, you'll want to use the 90 day renew.


    90 day renew: $0.67; cost of recycle: $0.008. Let's assume (30/7) 4 recycles per 30 days of the 90 days.
    Total cost: $0.67 + $0.08 * (90/30 * 4) = $1.63
    So, for a perfectly awful rent set (i.e. you always get a bad rental when you recycle), the cost would be pretty dismal. Since this is unlikely to happen, it's more reasonable to assume that the user (being me) would stop recycling after 3 attempts. Why? Because I just recently found out that NeoBux recycles your rental (if the referral is inactive, meaning no clicks at all) for free after 14 days; I thought it was just for those who had upgrades. I was wrong, thankfully.


    Putting these scenarios together, what would make for an overall net of $0?
    Let's assume an overall average of 1.0.
    With 50 rents, that makes for 
    +$0.25 per day from clicks
    -$0.40 per day from autopay (net loss)
    Alright. Now an overall average of 1.8.
    50 rents:
    +$0.45
    -$0.40 (net gain)
    Average of 1.6.
    50 rents:
    +$0.40
    -$0.40
    There's the money (lol or lack thereof). A net gain of Zero. Anything above that is gain. Anything below that is loss.


    However, this isn't how it actually works. One chunk of them are fairly active (something like 2.2 to 2.8), another chunk is decent (1.7 to 2.0) and about 1/4 and fewer of them have an average of less than that. And most, if not all of them, are active, or eventually become active.


    With 66 rents, so long as I make at least $0.528 in average per day and put that in the rental everyday, my rents are sustainable. Not profitable, but sustainable.


    What would I need for a profit of $1 per day?
    Required money per day: $1.53. Each click worth $0.005; 306; 206 / 66 = 3.12 (12 repeats)
    Avg per day so far: (130 + 97 + 120 + 117 + 91 + 106 + 141 + 122 + 122 + 124 + 75 + 115 + 130 + 111) / 14 = 114; placeholder amount = 2 places (91) ->110.
    110 / 66 = 1.6 (repeats)
    Well, that's simply splendid to know. I'm not making money, but I'm not losing it, either. Bleh. Well, at least I'm sustaining... basically.


    To at least sustain the rents I have, I need to maintain an average of 1.6. That means at least (1.6 * 66) = 106 clicks per day. Anything above that is me making some profit (that I can then reinvest). More strategizing later...